Comment 17 for bug 423856

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Eric Hammond (esh) wrote :

Random response points:

- My main statement is that I think this feature should be discussed on a more public forum. I don't know if this should be ubuntu-ec2, ec2ubuntu, a technical board meeting, or whatever. I'm simply reporting a conflict in what I've heard in the past and what seems to be proposed here.

- I would rather not be put in the position of arguing the view points of others, though I think they deserve a chance to be heard. Besides caring about the community's needs, I also care about a backlash against Ubuntu if the feature is launched without appropriate discussion and community support.

- It is possible that I entirely misunderstood what I thought was an Ubuntu promise not to implement dial-home features like you find in software from other vendors. (I also thought the name "Ubuntu" was not going to be used for commercial software products and it turns out I was wrong there ;-) )

- When you ask a Canonical web server for currency information, you are not just passing a release number and user agent. You are also informing Canonical of the IP address where you are running the image (or gateway). I imagine that would be the biggest privacy concern.

- I'm not just talking about EC2. I think think folks who run Eucalyptus on their own servers would be even more likely to object to having their instances contact Canonical and tell them they are running Eucalyptus in their company, and how often.

- It sounded to me like this feature would immediately contact Canonical on boot, making it difficult to disable even for people who knew about it and wanted to.

- It sounds like Soren has a great idea for integrating the check and notification features into a standard Ubuntu package so there is nothing happening beyond a normal upgrade to get the information through the normal channels. This would allow the user to decide who and when to notify about the fact that they are running Ubuntu just as they do today.

- See my first point. That's my point. All the rest of these points are just distractions.