DockbarX: Wine applications shouldn't all be grouped together
Eric Ding:
I'm using DockbarX 0.23.2 as a panel applet with Gnome. If I'm running more than one Wine application (e.g., MS Word and Quicken), they all get grouped together. Moreover, they all share a common icon (wine.svg) rather than having their own distinct icon. What would be a better design for Wine apps, I think, would be to (1) have Wine applications use their own icon (which is simple -- it's just a matter of ignoring the theme icon if the icon_name is "wine", at least in my installation of Linux Mint, and (2) group them together by application (window?) name rather than class_group_name (e.g., "Microsoft Word", "Quicken Basic 99", etc.).
A second-best approach would be to simply not group together Wine applications at all.
Thanks!
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- Status:
- Complete
- Approver:
- None
- Priority:
- High
- Drafter:
- None
- Direction:
- Needs approval
- Assignee:
- Matias Särs
- Definition:
- Approved
- Series goal:
- None
- Implementation:
- Implemented
- Milestone target:
- None
- Started by
- Matias Särs
- Completed by
- Matias Särs
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Matias: Now that the new launcher system is up and running I will look into this blueprint. I will use the window name instead of resource class name for wine applications, but I need some more information to about the window name to be able to group the right windows together. Could someone list some examples on important window names of wine programs. What is the window names for Microsoft Word windows or Internet Explorer windows? Do they follow any standard like "[Application Name] - [Document name or path]" or something like that? The more examples the better. I use only one wine application myself.
Eric: I'd say that it depends on the application. Here's some examples, though:
1) IE6 seems to follow a convention of [Page Title] - [Application Name], e.g., "MSN.com - Microsoft Internet Explorer".
2) Quicken 99 goes with [Application Name] - [Document Name] - [Page Title], e.g., "Quicken Basic 99 - QDATA - [Home Page - View 1]. But it also seems to use an MDI convention, so you don't have to deal with multiple windows.
3) Microsoft Word 2000 follows the same convention as IE6, e.g., "Document.rtf - Microsoft Word"
4) BibleWorks 6 just has a main window called "BibleWorks". It appears that other dialogs opened by BibleWorks are child dialogs of some sort (they don't show up explicitly when I use Alt-Tab to iterate through the window list).
5) Picasa 3 just has one main window called "Picasa 3" as well. But I run it using Google's Linux packaging, rather than explicitly through Wine, so it already shows up a separate application under DockbarX.
At least one other application I use also has no document names, only the application's name, in the window name.